Thursday, May 8, 2008

Suggestibility

Every once in awhile, I'm thinking about nothing in particular and something that may or may not be brilliant pops into my head.

I was wondering if, in this culture of a-pill-for-everything and pharmaceutical ads which run through symptoms that "you should seek medical attention" for that we are to some extent just triggering all the suggestibility of people. I think suggestibility is an under-appreciated concept in the world of medicine.

How many of you have gone through a bunch of questions with a patient to try to narrow down your diagnosis only to have the patient start to complain of something of which they weren't previously complaining?

Maybe they deny dizziness, but then the next time you enter the room, they insist they are dizzy. You ask about burning on urination, and they say no, but then after they pee the next time, all-of-a-sudden they have burning on urination despite having a stated chief complaint of headache.

Or, of course, there are the patients who just answer "yes" to everything you ask, which, to me, is less evidence of suggestibility than some sort of secondary gain issue.

Similarly, how many people watching Lyrica ads have subconsciously or consciously associated their aches and pains with "fibromyalgia"? How many people who hate their jobs and are feeling annoyed with the world have become "depressed"? How many have the anxious runs and have convinced themselves they have irritable bowel? A little heartburn every once in awhile? It's GERD! How many of these people have exaggerated symptoms or come up with additional symptoms to fit the "mold" of the disease they are convinced they have?

People in a state of emotional distress are more suggestible. Those with low self-esteem are suggestible. Those who are more passive/less-assertive are more suggestible too. Oddly, these people seem to be the people who have some of these soft diagnoses like chronic fatigue and irritable bowel.

Our culture has triggered the suggestibility of people into seeking medical care for things that they have unconsciously come up with on their own, that's for sure. Could this concept apply to entire disease states? Are there entire diseases that are nothing more than the manifestation of mass suggestibility?

One time, I was bored and one of my readers and I visited a fibromyalgia chat-room. My reader was chatting, and I was feeding her information to say to the group to test their suggestibility and see their reaction. It happened to be cold that day, and I told her to say "the changing temperatures have made my irritable bowel flare up again." I simply made that up. If it was hot, I would have said the heat made it flare up. Of course, the fibro-chatters chime in with "I know, sweetie" and "Yeah, me too."

With the ten or so people in the chat-room, at least one person agreed with my ever-increasing asinine correlations ("am I the only one who THIS happens to?") between things like Raynaud's Disease and left-shoulder pain and pollen content leading to full-blown fibro flare-ups. Suggestibility.

10 comments:

hannah said...

I actually knew a bulimic chick with GERD who died from choking on bile in her sleep.

/randomness

Evil Lunch Lady said...

Some air-head at work was told by her doc she may have Fibro. Why? Because her legs hurt. She's 47 and works in a school caf. Of course her legs hurt.

BUT the cold does make some of us hurt like hell, but it's not fibro:)

#1 Dinosaur said...

"Maybe" our culture has triggered the suggestibility of people into seeking medical care for things that they have unconsciously come up with on their own?

Um, DUH!!

CrankyProf said...

Whiny fibromyalgiaeurs make my violent twitch act up.

Nurse K said...

Dino---Yeah, I wasn't clear in that paragraph...I changed it to better reflect what I really meant to say...which was the idea of some diseases being nothing more than the sum total of mass suggestibility, at least to a large extent.

tyro said...

The flip side of this is the placebo effect, which everyone dismisses; the amazing thing is how big an effect it has. Almost always significant relief w/nothing more than a sugar pill.

The trick is to use it to our advantage; something CAM (gasp!) actually takes seriously, and one of the reasons why the western med/integrated CAM programs are actually a good thing, with the caveat that they are all in the primary care setting.

Funny post. That's a bit devious, don't you think, posting that way? But funny. And revealing.

Soupdaloup Design Works said...

I was always advised never to read the DSM as your bound to think your crazy after that.

Rogue Medic said...

If you raise children to think that they can do anything, they surprise you with what they accomplish.

If you raise them with constant criticism of "you can't do that," you end up with adults who cannot take care of themselves.

If you are constantly telling people that something must hurt and that they need treatment for it, they will act accordingly.

Many people do not think for themselves. Many people appear to be afraid of thinking for themselves.

Nurse K said...

Yeah, I wonder what's going to become of all these otherwise-healthy kids whose parents bring them in Qsniffle or Qcough or Qsore throat or Qfever. They're going to be adults that do the same and it becomes all of the above + qknee pain, qsharp chest pain with cough, etc.

You're 100% right about lack of thinking for oneself...part of the Medicaid Mentality (TM). That go-get-em attitude just isn't there.

Rhiannon said...

Now what would be interesting to me is if you could do a comparison study with a country that doesn't allow direct advertising by drug companies and see if there actually is a difference in the instance of these diseases. I know here in Canada there is no direct to consumer advertising like there is in the US.

I always want to defend my aunt when people talk about CFS. She's suffered from it for a long time. She is an assertive woman who was in school for her phd in business as well as teaching honours classes when she became ill. I see what this disease does to her. She doesn't take painkillers for it, she doesn't go to the ED at all. She's an intelligent driven professional woman with a debilitating illness who functions as well as she can and doesn't ask for help or complain about her life. But then you would run into her as a nurse, because she doesn't make silly unnecessary trips to the hospital. Maybe she is a part of a population of people who have these soft illnesses who you don't hear about because they don't go around drug-seeking, etc etc.